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meditation and pain

asked 2016-01-13 14:07:06 -0500

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updated 2016-07-12 13:07:32 -0500

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When i initially began doing meditation it was to get away from pain. Now although my inner state has improved gradually, i still dont let myself get happy, i hold on to a little bit of pain so that it makes the meditation more intense (does it make sense to someone?) like i focus i some thing very painful to me and make that feeling very intense so that i can enjoy meditaton that much more.and my prayers become intense and i feel like i am strengthening the relationship with god even more ^is this an unhealthy pattern?

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answered 2016-01-13 16:22:54 -0500

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I believe Guruka Singh told me personally about 2 diffrent kind of pains.

One of following the path of Dharma and other one is doing whatever end up in a Karma or a karmic life.

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The idea on doing sadhana is in "program language" to reprogram yourself. Reprogramming by yourself in the vast oceans of alot of codes that needs to be read and reprogramed takes alot of time and effort. Using this explanation the Guru tells us that during amrit vela between 04:00-07:00, 4 to 7 AM is the best time to do that, to do your Sadhana. Reprogramming yourself is painful. You chisel and you cut away the dark and useless codes in your program. In literature this very painful process called "vulturing". And it also says that it is like a thorny bush. The more you go in to the bush of thorns, the more painful it will be and the thorns will pierce you harder. But after awhile the thorny bush will let go and you will see and experiance things diffrently.

In my experiance, I did experience this in august last year with help, altough only for a couple of minutes. In the beginning, there were pain I didn't know I had in my body and I couldn't breathe. Pain was aching everywhere in my body. With help of my mentor I went on. The pain become more and more, but I kept going. The reason was because according to the theory and talking to other people I know that I have to keep going. Then at one time I went through the thorny bush. And then I can not describe my experiance.

I've knew the theory, but i didn't know the practice until then. That is why it is important to not only know the theory but also experiance it. But not reprograming yourself and you say "whatever", whatever will happen to you. Now in my experiance I personally think that karmic path is so painful that you just want to stop learning new stuff and just want to let go of the pain. And following dharmic path is painful.

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Good luck /Cloud

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answered 2016-01-13 17:22:25 -0500

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updated 2016-01-14 13:32:47 -0500

Fame and shame are one and the same. Loss and gain are one and the same. Pleasure and pain are one and the same.

Choose your pain and so you define your pleasure.

Rather.... don't hold onto any feeling or thought. Just let them come and let them go. Let the constant flow be in the Naam... in the breath. The aim of meditation is not to have an "intense" experience, nor to get away from pain or experience spiritual pleasure. The purpose of meditation is to clean out your mental rubbish on a daily basis.

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answered 2016-01-15 04:46:39 -0500

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Crossing the limits is not at all advisable.

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What limits are you speaking about? Not clear to me from your comment.

Guruka Singh gravatar imageGuruka Singh ( 2016-03-01 14:21:30 -0500 )edit

answered 2016-06-12 02:27:56 -0500

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I have one question I can i do path sukhmani sahib without bath

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If you can't have a bath, wash your face, hands, and feet (panj ishnaan). But if you are able to have a bath, then you definitely should have one.

gn gravatar imagegn ( 2016-06-12 09:52:47 -0500 )edit

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