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back and forth push and pull

asked 2015-12-06 17:00:31 -0600

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updated 2015-12-09 10:54:02 -0600

Guruka Singh gravatar image

I experience a lot of this with my meditation. for example feeling at peace and then all of a sudden something in me goes insane again, and jumps into a labyrinth of stupid thoughts. some might even be against our gurus :|

how do I really fight this. i can fight other thoughts, by bowing to guru. but what if some thoughts question the guru :|

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answered 2015-12-09 10:51:54 -0600

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updated 2015-12-10 10:47:02 -0600

How, exactly, are you meditating? What you describe is just what is supposed to happen when you meditate. Your mental state may have lot of subconscious garbage. Just meditate effectively every day and do not be bogged down or be afraid of everything you go through. Because it will be a lot. When meditation works it will bring out a lot of garbage. Don't fight your thoughts. Let them come and then let them go. All thoughts are just that... thoughts. Don't judge them as "good thoughts" or "bad thoughts." Meditation is like an oil filter. Do it, and the garbage gets cleaned automatically by the power of the Shabd. There can be one problem or one million problems but there is a one answer. 31 minutes every day, without a break. Just do it.


Just read your reply to my question. You are doing great, but you are missing one thing: simran using your breath. Check out these two links. They may help you through this block.

What is Meditation?

How to Meditate

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answered 2015-12-09 14:15:45 -0600

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updated 2015-12-09 14:19:32 -0600

thank you ^ wakeup (early hours) cross legged, and listen to japji sahib (and whisper as the recording) essentially because I want to know how the pronunciation goes. + I read 25 pages from shri guru granth sahib ( everyday, because I want to understand it and finish all of it) + ardaas (not materialistic, first thing I ask for is a connection and relationship with god, second thing is what bothers me or something i want(about relationships, emotions, and goals), last thing is to have courage to accept his hukam and walk in his will)

during the day, anytime I feel like i am losing control - ( chaupai sahib + ardaas) jaap sahib (when I REALLY feel like i am losing control)

then rehraas in evening

tbh haven;t dont kirtan sohaila yet

upon doing this,.. I have had experiences during meditation (intense, goosebumps + felt complete), but my skeptical side is like well you have experiences (ie get goosebumps) when you listen to really good music too. so it brings me right back to where I started. idk what is blocking me, maybe my skepticism, and desire to understand everything.

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