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Is Sikhism modern hinduism ?

asked 2019-06-05 07:08:50 -0600

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updated 2019-06-05 10:20:28 -0600

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ਸਤਜੁਗਿ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਛਲਿਓ ਬਲਿ ਬਾਵਨ ਭਾਇਓ ॥ सतजुगि तै माणिओ छलिओ बलि बावन भाइओ ॥ Saṯjug ṯai māṇi▫o cẖẖali▫o bal bāvan bẖā▫i▫o. In the Golden Age of Sat Yuga, You were pleased to deceive Baal the king, in the form of a dwarf.

ਤ੍ਰੇਤੈ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਰਾਮੁ ਰਘੁਵੰਸੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥ त्रेतै तै माणिओ रामु रघुवंसु कहाइओ ॥ Ŧareṯai ṯai māṇi▫o rām ragẖūvans kahā▫i▫o. In the Silver Age of Traytaa Yuga, You were called Raam of the Raghu dynasty.

ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮੁਰਾਰਿ ਕੰਸੁ ਕਿਰਤਾਰਥੁ ਕੀਓ ॥ दुआपुरि क्रिसन मुरारि कंसु किरतारथु कीओ ॥ Ḏu▫āpur krisan murār kans kirṯārath kī▫o. In the Brass Age of Dwaapur Yuga, You were Krishna; You killed Mur the demon and saved Kans.

ਉਗ੍ਰਸੈਣ ਕਉ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਭੈ ਭਗਤਹ ਜਨ ਦੀਓ ॥ उग्रसैण कउ राजु अभै भगतह जन दीओ ॥ Ugarsaiṇ ka▫o rāj abẖai bẖagṯah jan ḏī▫o. You blessed Ugrasain with a kingdom, and You blessed Your humble devotees with fearlessness.

ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਣੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰੁ ਅੰਗਦੁ ਅਮਰੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥ कलिजुगि प्रमाणु नानक गुरु अंगदु अमरु कहाइओ ॥ Kalijug parmāṇ Nānak gur angaḏ amar kahā▫i▫o. In the Iron Age, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, You are known and accepted as Guru Nanak, Guru Angad and Guru Amar Das.

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਬਿਚਲੁ ਅਟਲੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖਿ ਫੁਰਮਾਇਓ ॥੭॥ स्री गुरू राजु अबिचलु अटलु आदि पुरखि फुरमाइओ ॥७॥ Sarī gurū rāj abicẖal atal āḏ purakẖ furmā▫i▫o. ||7|| The sovereign rule of the Great Guru is unchanging and permanent, according the Command of the Primal Lord God. ||7|| ang 1390

This shabad explains about the avatar of each youg but in this Shabad or any shabad there is mention of Jesus,Muhammad.So is this shabad means that Sikhism is modern hinduism?

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answered 2019-06-05 09:36:54 -0600

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More like Sikhism is ancient Hinduism and much more. Acutal Hinduism died when Brahmins manipulated the religion and made people believe that Statues are God, they went to such extent that Brahmins didn't even teach Sanskrit(language of Vedas and other Ancient books) to any non Brahmin, this led to corruption of the religion and the rise of modern "fake" babas.

The Actual Hinduism has this Gyatri Mantra ( same like our Mool Mantra)

Om Bhur Bhuvaḥ Swaḥ Tat-savitur Vareñyaṃ Bhargo Devasya Dhīmahi Dhiyo Yonaḥ Prachodayāt

which means We meditate on that most adored Supreme Lord, the creator, whose effulgence (divine light) illumines all realms (physical, mental and spiritual). May this divine light illumine our intellect.

So Ancient Hindu's meditated on true God unlike modern Hindu's who worship statues and avatars like Krishan, Shiv, etc.

Seeing this corruption and taking the best of both worlds from Hinduism, Islam & Buddhism Guru Nanak created a new religion that was true to the old and true values.

Note: Religions are created because of above reason but God is one and treats every true religion equally. Consider religion like nation borders, they are superficial and man made but the land is still land for birds as they don't know borders.

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answered 2019-06-05 10:37:42 -0600

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I agree with @teraBanda. Loved your land/borders/birds metaphor.

There are avatars born all the time. Each has different work to do. An avatar is a human being who is free from karmas but chooses to incarnate again to serve humanity in physical form. Each avatar takes on a "mission" to accomplish during such an incarnation. This shabad only calls out some of these avatars, not all of them. Guruji is reflecting on the missions of these avatars and reminding us that the Guru, which exists within all of us, reigns supreme in every age. When our Guru Sahibian wrote their verse, knowledge of the vedas through oral tradition was assumed. Knowledge of Jesus and Muhhammad in the general population was not assumed. Gurbani refers to the base of knowledge that was already established in India at the time. That does not make "Sikhism" modern-day Hinduism. In fact, Sikhi is not a religion at all. It is Dharma, technology, a way of living in one's own grace and purity in the world. All religions start as Dharma, but over time they mostly descend into ritual as people lose the daily experience of the technology and the elevation that comes from living in the flow/hukam of the One.

Dharma is the support of the earth. Born of compassion and kindness. It patiently holds the thread of creation together. Understand this and become a person of Truth. What a great load the Dharma sustains! (Japji Sahib, Pauri 16)

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