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Disscociation and spirituality

asked 2018-04-10 13:41:52 -0600

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updated 2018-04-11 13:47:18 -0600

Guruka Singh gravatar image

How does disscociation play a role, is it positive or something else. Disscociation is like an isolation in which you are not connected to much of worldy things and have your own views and belief systems. In sikhism wouldnt that be considered an avastha or bhagti earnings if it is occuring for the highest good? In phychiatry it gets stated as a problem and due to trauma the body stops responding to certain things or disconnects... What are your thoughts on this?

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answered 2018-04-10 14:56:56 -0600

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I like your question. I was talking to someone recently about another culture and they mentioned how some things that would be defined as a disease in psychiatry is considered a normal thing in their culture. So I think there definitely is an aspect to that because the model of medicine doesn’t exactly match up sometimes to cultural differences. I think the dissociation in the psychiatry is different than what you have mentioned. In that patient, they aren’t voluntarily doing it, but as you’ve said a result of some trauma. I believe the diagnostic criteria of dissociative disorders involves amnesia, identity alteration, confusion, derealisation (feeling the surroundings are not real), and depersonalization (not connected to self). As you can tell these are unhealthy symptoms for functioning because a person who doesn’t remember who they are, and cannot connect to themselves is different from functioning in a higher avastha. Rather I think in Sikhi we are quite connected to our one-ness, to God within oneself and to God in all. We don’t aim to be living in isolation, but rather householder life, and still trying to gain that higher avastha of not being too entangled in the world as if we are a lotus sitting on the water. There comes in not having too much worldliness, but it doesn’t mean complete disconnection from the world if you know what I mean. That's my understanding on this topic.

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answered 2018-04-11 13:53:42 -0600

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updated 2018-04-11 16:46:11 -0600

As Sikhs, we live in grisht ashram -- a householder's life. Sikhi is designed for householders. It is a path that allows us to stay centered and connected to the Infinite while in the midst of our daily lives. The lotus flower floats on top of the water, but its roots are firmly anchored in the mud. We do not have to become "worldly" in order to be spiritual, but we must experience Maya as it truly is and honor this incarnation by playing our parts joyfully, but not falling into the trap of any one of our personas. They are there so we can do the work we incarnated to do, but they are not our true identity... our Saatinaam. By developing one's personal discipline and doing daily sadhana and simran we can live with our head in the heavens, our feet well on the ground, and we can even remember our postal code, whilst still seeing God in all.

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i didn't know about the roots in the mud part. now that whole analogy makes even more sense!

strongKaur gravatar imagestrongKaur ( 2018-04-11 18:05:18 -0600 )edit

In sikhi saints are born as well which they have a much different lifestyle, so it doesn't only involve householders. Saints that can meditate for months without worldly stuff.

infinite12 gravatar imageinfinite12 ( 2018-04-14 09:59:44 -0600 )edit

And saints can live as householders as well.

Guruka Singh gravatar imageGuruka Singh ( 2018-04-23 17:30:21 -0600 )edit

answered 2018-04-13 19:52:51 -0600

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From my understanding of what dissociation is as it relates to psychiatry and as it relates to cultural differences, it is very similar to attachment/detachment and maintaining a balance between worldly affairs and your inner self. Maintaining balance means achieving homeostasis or equilibrium within your inner self. It is healthy and necessary to detach from others to reconnect with yourself by living a householders life and then rebuilding connections. You need this to sustain healthy relationships with others, while living your day to day life. This is a vital teaching in Sikhi and an individual must understand this teaching in order to live a happy and healthy lifestyle. It is necessary to sustain ones life.

Dissociation relates to psychiatry when an individual has completely lost connection and association with oneself. This person has lost connection with reality and the inability to disipher between real and unreal within their own consciousness.

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If you were to describe a all-day meditator, would that involve dissociation?

infinite12 gravatar imageinfinite12 ( 2018-04-14 09:58:10 -0600 )edit

No. That is taking care of yourself. It is self-care and being good to yourself in all aspects of your form.

kaurchic gravatar imagekaurchic ( 2018-04-14 17:20:35 -0600 )edit

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