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asked 2012-03-05 18:47:23 -0500

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updated 2012-03-30 11:57:09 -0500

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Is there any justification for what Namdhari Sikhs believe in? I knew little of them so did a bit of research, and they believe Guru Gobind Singh Ji actually lived well into the 1800s and passed on the Guruship to another Singh, leaving Namdhari Sikhs to presently believe in a living Guru.

The 'facts' they provided seemed a little vague and inconclusive to me, with the basis being that Guru Nanak Dev Ji stating a prophecy of there being 14 Gurus? Can anyone shed some light on this? I have always grown up accepting Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji so it is a little confusing that many would continue to believe in a so called living Guru.

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answered 2012-03-15 17:06:17 -0500

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Everyone finds justification for their own beliefs. You must find your own truth. All of the traditions in our history have roots in some time and place. You must decide how relevant they are in relation to your life.

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answered 2012-03-27 03:12:36 -0500

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Vaheguru JI Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fathe!

As Guruka Singh said it is you who must find your own truth. If you have grown up to believing that Guru Granth Sahib Ji is your Guru and that is what makes sense to you then Guru Granth Sahib JI is your guru. I also believe in Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I just think that the whole Namdhari thing is a wrong concept because Guru Gobind Singh Ji said: "Sabh Sikhan ko hukam hai guru maneo Granth." The Guru of all of the Sikhs is Guru Granth Saib ji and that is my hukam. "Guru Granth Ji maneo pargat gura ke deh." Jo prabh ko mil boh chahe khoj shabad me lai." who ever what to be with God must serch with in the words of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Guru Granth Sahib JI now your guru until the world ends.

So you see from this Guru Gobind Ji was saying that Guru Granth Sahib Ji is your eternal guru and that the bani written in Guru Granth Sahib ji are the words of God.

Terribly sorry if I didn't answer you question properly but I hope it helps I'm just a mere child. thank you :)

Vaheguru JI Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fathe!

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answered 2012-11-20 12:35:33 -0500

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Even Guru Arjun slept on floor and kept the Pothi Sahib on the bed. The real Guru is in Shabad. Rest are all human shells which can be gone with time.

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sorry i am a nihang in nihang daram we consider all three granths as guru no offfence to you of course bhaji

Nihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa gravatar imageNihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa ( 2012-11-21 12:35:09 -0500 )edit

really? but u hav last name dhanoa. but there were never 3 Gurus present at same time. only one was given Gaddi.

kanwaljit.singh gravatar imagekanwaljit.singh ( 2012-11-21 20:46:04 -0500 )edit

answered 2012-11-22 04:36:25 -0500

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updated 2012-11-22 04:38:33 -0500

Being born in a sikh family is a privelege grossly understated in our present day society. Leave apart the rest, we so called sikhs are the biggest to undermine this privilege.

We tend to and are driven to seeing around - and what do we end up seeing - majority of the world fighting,quarelling,debating whether or not there is a GOD. Similar and much complicated discussions and debates offshoot. Everybody has opinions...views but few reconcile and agree to otheres'.

One privilege of being a sikh is that Guru Saheb took us beyond this doubt. That he is there and is one. Guru Granth Saheb starts on that note with '1'. And then he gave us the biggest gift. Opportunity to become a sangat. You know some, I know some....together we know double.

Now Now Now, poor we, good at division, divided ourselves, divided our simple philosophy. But did we stop there.... we took the next shot at the Guru Saheb itself.(one Guru in Guru Granth Saheb,,,,, Dasam Granth ....3 gurus ...14 Gurus...) but did we still stop ...... (padd chhed ..... larivaar) .... still did we stop ..... (dehdhaari.... namdhaari ....and so on)...but still did we stop ???????? (I dont know if we'll ever stop)

Sikh and his sikhi ..... could we have kept it very simple as it was meant to be....
"anek hai phir ek hai"

Guruka singh jee summed it up very nicely in the short answer to this question.........

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answered 2012-11-24 08:44:10 -0500

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lets do some childhood stuff from school. We called it fill in the blanks. Trust me it'll be fun:

1) Gura ek deh bhujaai, sabhnaan jiyaan ka _ data, so mein visar na jaayee. 2) Suraj eko, rut anek, nanak _ ke kete ves. 3) Sabh mein _ , _ hai soye, tiss de chanan sabh mein chanan hoye. 4) Amaan hain, nidhaan hain, anek hain, phir _ hain. 5) Jaat mein , jot mein, akal kalaa bharpoor raheyaa. 6) _ gur, __ dhunn chela.

I feel all of us are saying the same thing, only the way to say it is different. Isn't it. And isn't that vismaad.

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answered 2012-11-19 16:13:35 -0500

Nihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa gravatar image

updated 2012-11-22 10:42:49 -0500

there is one guru and will never be 14 sikhi will never be simple it is a tree it branches but not like Christianity Adh darbur dasam darbur and sri sarbloh darbur have always been our scriptures only when the british came they tried to simplify our religion into what it wasnt. sikhi is simple in the sence of purity. but the three granths in their prakash make one guru in one form not three seperate granths as they are three joined knots one and together it is your choice to believe in the granths but the suprieme ruler of the granth is the sri guru granth shaib ji as 3 prakash

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Rest of the Granths have title Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth. They are not considered Gurus. Historically Guru Gobind Singh left Guru-ship to Sri Guru Granth Sahib only. Check your facts please.

kanwaljit.singh gravatar imagekanwaljit.singh ( 2012-11-20 12:36:57 -0500 )edit

What you infer is incorrect sri guru granth shaib ji is an abrieviation for all three granths if you are adressing akal adhi sri guru granth shaib ji maharajh then please say so. in the nihang tradition the dasam bani is the guru aswell so respect my view it will not be the same as yours.

Nihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa gravatar imageNihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa ( 2012-11-22 10:50:36 -0500 )edit

adhi guru granth = shant rass dasam guru granth =bir rass sri sarbloh guru granth =birrass

Nihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa gravatar imageNihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa ( 2012-11-22 10:50:57 -0500 )edit

You mean to say there is no bir rass in Adi Guru Granth Sahib :D

kanwaljit.singh gravatar imagekanwaljit.singh ( 2012-11-25 21:48:09 -0500 )edit

is there any war ballads in the sggsj no so exsactly shant rass is the perfect rass taht contains all feeling in one vibration but bir rass is totaly different. feel it and then come back 2 me :)

Nihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa gravatar imageNihang Gavinpal Singh Khalsa ( 2012-11-29 05:26:55 -0500 )edit

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