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he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow?

asked 2019-08-26 22:51:54 -0600

teraBanda gravatar image

updated 2019-08-28 11:07:49 -0600

Is it better to turn a deaf ear to the truth and enjoy life to the fullest till the time runs out ?

Knowledge only increases pain.

Kabir Sukhiya sab sansar hai, Khaye aur soye Dukhiya dass kabir hai, Jaage aur roye

In joy is the whole world consuming and sleeping. In sorrow is servant Kabir awakened and weeping.


sochai soch naa hov-a-ee jay sochee lakh vaar By bathing at holy places a hundred thousand times, one cannot find God (Breaking superstition of Hindus bathing at pilgrimages )

chupai chup naa hov-a-ee jay laa-i rahaa liv taar (Breaking superstition of Mon Vrats ) By keeping Silence fast (Mon vrat) , one cannot find God bhukhi-aa bhukh naa utree jay bannaa puree-aa bhaar (Breaking superstition of fasting ) By keeping hunger fast, one cannot find God

sehas si-aanpaa lakh hoh taa ik naa chalai naal One may possess a hundred thousand clever ideas, but even one will not accompany him/her*

kiv sachi-aaraa ho-ee-ai kiv koorhai tutai paal How then can one be purified? How can one throw away the falsehood?

hukam rajaa-ee chalnaa naanak likhi-aa naal Says Nanak, By being content with the Command of God, which is pre-written for everyone!

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answered 2019-08-27 00:20:53 -0600

Jaipreet Singh gravatar image

"Pothi par par jag mua pandit bhaiya na koye dhai akshar prem ke jo pade so pandit hoye" "Reading and reading Granths no one becomes enlightened two and half words of love of God the persons who reads becomes enlightened."

ਧਨਾਸਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੪ ॥ धनासरी महला ४ ॥ Dhanaasaree, Fourth Mehl:

ਸੇਵਕ ਸਿਖ ਪੂਜਣ ਸਭਿ ਆਵਹਿ ਸਭਿ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਊਤਮ ਬਾਨੀ ॥ सेवक सिख पूजण सभि आवहि सभि गावहि हरि हरि ऊतम बानी ॥ All the Sikhs and servants come to worship and adore You; they sing the sublime Bani of the Lord, Har, Har.

ਗਾਵਿਆ ਸੁਣਿਆ ਤਿਨ ਕਾ ਹਰਿ ਥਾਇ ਪਾਵੈ ਜਿਨ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਆਗਿਆ ਸਤਿ ਸਤਿ ਕਰਿ ਮਾਨੀ ॥੧॥ गाविआ सुणिआ तिन का हरि थाइ पावै जिन सतिगुर की आगिआ सति सति करि मानी ॥१॥ Their singing and listening is approved by the Lord; who accept the Order of the True Guru as True, totally True. ||1||Ang669

ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੧ ॥ सलोकु मः १ ॥ Shalok, First Mehl:

ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਗਡੀ ਲਦੀਅਹਿ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਭਰੀਅਹਿ ਸਾਥ ॥ पड़ि पड़ि गडी लदीअहि पड़ि पड़ि भरीअहि साथ ॥ You may read and read loads of books; you may read and study vast multitudes of books.

ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਬੇੜੀ ਪਾਈਐ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਗਡੀਅਹਿ ਖਾਤ ॥ पड़ि पड़ि बेड़ी पाईऐ पड़ि पड़ि गडीअहि खात ॥ You may read and read boat-loads of books; you may read and read and fill pits with them.

ਪੜੀਅਹਿ ਜੇਤੇ ਬਰਸ ਬਰਸ ਪੜੀਅਹਿ ਜੇਤੇ ਮਾਸ ॥ पड़ीअहि जेते बरस बरस पड़ीअहि जेते मास ॥ You may read them year after year; you may read them as many months are there are.

ਪੜੀਐ ਜੇਤੀ ਆਰਜਾ ਪੜੀਅਹਿ ਜੇਤੇ ਸਾਸ ॥ पड़ीऐ जेती आरजा पड़ीअहि जेते सास ॥ You may read them all your life; you may read them with every breath.

ਨਾਨਕ ਲੇਖੈ ਇਕ ਗਲ ਹੋਰੁ ਹਉਮੈ ਝਖਣਾ ਝਾਖ ॥੧॥ नानक लेखै इक गल होरु हउमै झखणा झाख ॥१॥ O Nanak, only one thing is of any account: everything else is useless babbling and idle talk in ego. ||1||Ang 467

That one thing of account is reciting Waheguru's name and his glories.

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my question is why, you are answering the "How to"

teraBanda gravatar imageteraBanda ( 2019-08-27 10:02:21 -0600 )edit

answered 2019-08-27 16:12:34 -0600

Guruka Singh gravatar image

updated 2019-08-27 16:20:16 -0600

Samsara is the great game of life. From outside the game Kabir sees the suffering and weeps. There are two types of knowledge. Gyan is inner knowledge. It is not mental, intellectual, academic knowledge. It is the timeless wisdom that lies outside the game. The knowledge that increases pain is intellectual knowledge. Why? it feeds duality. "Sochai soch na hovai..." We cannot experience the Infinite through our mind though we learn and learn and think and think. The inner knowledge brings freedom from the boundaries inherent in thinking. No, it's not better to turn a deaf ear. But do consciously choose what you think about.

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"Sochai soch na hovai..." By bathing at holy places a hundred thousand times, one cannot find God, Soch is sanskrit for bathing not to be confused with Hindi word thinking .

teraBanda gravatar imageteraBanda ( 2019-08-27 16:53:26 -0600 )edit

TeraBanda Ji - Thinking does not make any sense, you may think hundred thousand times, it's a very simple line. By purifying you cannot be purified, though you purify yourself hundred thousand times.

Guruka Singh gravatar imageGuruka Singh ( 2019-08-28 10:13:01 -0600 )edit

so they gave a certain option to us which is a most ridiculous option because what Guru Nanak said was, Sochai soch na hovai je sochi lakh var.

Guruka Singh gravatar imageGuruka Singh ( 2019-08-28 10:13:04 -0600 )edit

By thinking hundred thousand times you cannot think. so when Guru Nanak said, "Sochai soch na hovai je sochi lakh var." He was not only true, he was absolutely true and we don't need Bhai Veer Singh version or Prof. Sahib Singh version. The meaning is clear.

Guruka Singh gravatar imageGuruka Singh ( 2019-08-28 10:13:18 -0600 )edit

Guruka Singh Ji maybe you are right, but I am pretty sure Soch doesn't mean thinking here I will Edit my question because of lack of space

teraBanda gravatar imageteraBanda ( 2019-08-28 11:05:53 -0600 )edit

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